Positivity flows like a fine wine, getting better everyday. Inspiration, creativity, passion, these are the charcuterie board of what makes great artists and great conversation.

Two of the world’s most interesting humans alive got together to chop it up, and to say it was an insightful and thought-provoking conversation would be an enormous understatement. 

Andre 3000, aka 3 Stacks, aka one half of the greatest hip hop group of all time, Outkast, has spent most of his time outside of the limelight since Outkast dismantled in 2006. He’s lent his talents to Frank Ocean, Beyonce, and a couple others, but he’s relatively under the radar.

Rick Rubin, the genius producer, zen master, and one of the coolest guys alive, cut his teeth producing for the Beastie Boys, Run DMC, LL Cool J, and many more. But he didn’t create a legacy of building up and supporting artists through their creative journey just to sit back and let the culture pass him by. He’s remained a foundational member of pop culture to this day, helping artists like Pharrell, Brockhampton, SZA, and so many more not just produce their albums, but find their whole sound, and find themselves in the process.

Rick Rubin has been running his podcast, Broken Record, from the converted bus on his property dubbed Shangri La, out in Malibu, and has conversed with some of music’s biggest names, but the one that took my breath away was his interview with Andre. 

This chat is filled to the brim with wisdom, and it feels a lot like listening to an Andre record, or a Rubin produced song, you can feel it in your bones, it soothes the spirit, and gives us hope for the future.